after due thought and thorough consideration - and kicking myself in the butt for not ordering before the holidays when i had the original chance...i've placed an order for 5dm2. (from Adorama) i originally hesitated to get the kit as i was really just intersted in the body. but, have decided to get the kit and add another lens to the inventory. time will tell if it was a mistake, kit vs. body only. the final push over the edge was that the 24-105 f4/L does have a 77mm filter size. so, i will be able to use my normal arsenal of filters and will not find myself perturbed by the fact that i can't slap a ND or several on it. the new one should arrive tomorrow, very exciting. ;) one of my 5ds is very much in need of a good, thorough clean and calibration; the arrival of the new 5dm2 will present the perfect opportunity for it to be shipped off to canon for a little service.